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		<title>By: Yellow Perilism In VFX &#124; VFX Soldier</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-19528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yellow Perilism In VFX &#124; VFX Soldier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] someone in Asia. It&#8217;s called Yellow Peril and I&#8217;ve pointed that out a few times before here and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] someone in Asia. It&#8217;s called Yellow Peril and I&#8217;ve pointed that out a few times before here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: http://tinyurl.com/statlang13265</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-15033</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally would like to book mark this particular post, 
“Digital Domain Purchased by Galloping Horse &amp; 
Reliance &#124; VFX Soldier” on my very own site. Will you care 
if perhaps I personallydo? Thanks -Dominic]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally would like to book mark this particular post,<br />
“Digital Domain Purchased by Galloping Horse &amp;<br />
Reliance | VFX Soldier” on my very own site. Will you care<br />
if perhaps I personallydo? Thanks -Dominic</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ross</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-10995</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jonavark... Thanks for reading my blog.  I enjoy writing it and many have told me that they enjoy the read as well. 

Here is a time line primer... From 1993-1998, Mr, Cameron and Mr. Winston sat on DD&#039;s board and Mr. Cameron was a client having done TRUE LIES, T2/3D, STRANGE DAYS and TITANIC at DD.  During that period of time DD was not profitable. 

From 1998-2006, DD was a profitable business, albeit, barely. Cameron and Winston, though shareholders had no involvement with DD whatsoever.

In 2006 DD was sold to Wyndcrest (Textor).. From 2006-2012, DD and its subs lost well over $100M .

As to your involvement as an advisor... please let us know who you are, and what you do?  I&#039;m always looking for world class talent with great expertise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jonavark&#8230; Thanks for reading my blog.  I enjoy writing it and many have told me that they enjoy the read as well. </p>
<p>Here is a time line primer&#8230; From 1993-1998, Mr, Cameron and Mr. Winston sat on DD&#8217;s board and Mr. Cameron was a client having done TRUE LIES, T2/3D, STRANGE DAYS and TITANIC at DD.  During that period of time DD was not profitable. </p>
<p>From 1998-2006, DD was a profitable business, albeit, barely. Cameron and Winston, though shareholders had no involvement with DD whatsoever.</p>
<p>In 2006 DD was sold to Wyndcrest (Textor).. From 2006-2012, DD and its subs lost well over $100M .</p>
<p>As to your involvement as an advisor&#8230; please let us know who you are, and what you do?  I&#8217;m always looking for world class talent with great expertise.</p>
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		<title>By: jonavark</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-10985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonavark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott. I didn&#039;t say I know anything. I asked if DD ever made money. You aren&#039;t the only one who was there. So the stories are out there. And while your stories are full of trips to speak in other countries, limo rides and lots ego fluff I&#039;ve never heard you discuss whether it was a complete financial failure or not. Understandably. 

SOMEONE made DD look like a golden goose and someone else took the bait and people lost money, jobs and their homes. 

Frankly, knowing what I know about this business I would love to have been there to advise anyone thinking about building it into some kind of mega entertainment entity just how bone stupid that idea was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott. I didn&#8217;t say I know anything. I asked if DD ever made money. You aren&#8217;t the only one who was there. So the stories are out there. And while your stories are full of trips to speak in other countries, limo rides and lots ego fluff I&#8217;ve never heard you discuss whether it was a complete financial failure or not. Understandably. </p>
<p>SOMEONE made DD look like a golden goose and someone else took the bait and people lost money, jobs and their homes. </p>
<p>Frankly, knowing what I know about this business I would love to have been there to advise anyone thinking about building it into some kind of mega entertainment entity just how bone stupid that idea was.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ross</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-10929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ion... you said &quot;As as standalone movie studio and lesser extent advertising unit, DD was pretty much finished anyway, prior to Textor.&quot;

Why would you say that? Prior to Textor DD was a marginally profitable VFX facility like R&amp;H, ILM, WETA etc.. 

And guess what?  DD version 3.0 is basically the same as DD version 1.0 only with a fractional amount of more working capital  , different owners,  and different management. But all in all, the same business.

Now DD 2.0 prior to the IPO and DD 2.5 after the IPO were the Textor years, as I like to call them, from 2006-2012.  The dark ages.... and time will tell, hopefully, and justice should be done, hopefully, to bring any of those involved in any possible wrongdoings to light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ion&#8230; you said &#8220;As as standalone movie studio and lesser extent advertising unit, DD was pretty much finished anyway, prior to Textor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would you say that? Prior to Textor DD was a marginally profitable VFX facility like R&amp;H, ILM, WETA etc.. </p>
<p>And guess what?  DD version 3.0 is basically the same as DD version 1.0 only with a fractional amount of more working capital  , different owners,  and different management. But all in all, the same business.</p>
<p>Now DD 2.0 prior to the IPO and DD 2.5 after the IPO were the Textor years, as I like to call them, from 2006-2012.  The dark ages&#8230;. and time will tell, hopefully, and justice should be done, hopefully, to bring any of those involved in any possible wrongdoings to light.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jonavark.... and you would know that because?  DD did make money... not a great deal... not anything to take public but when I ran DD and after Cameron left... DD was profitable. 

vfxlies...I did what?  And you would know this because? I cashed  out? You have no idea what you are talking about. And I watched it spiral downward?  I was not part of the Company when it spiraled downward.

And clearly, you do not understand sarcasm... when I said I had his word... it was very tongue in cheek. John Textor&#039;s &quot;word&quot;?  Really? You know the old joke of how do you tell when a salesman is lying? When his lips are moving.

As for trust... I&#039;m from NYC, I don&#039;t trust anyone until they prove to me that they are trustworthy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jonavark&#8230;. and you would know that because?  DD did make money&#8230; not a great deal&#8230; not anything to take public but when I ran DD and after Cameron left&#8230; DD was profitable. </p>
<p>vfxlies&#8230;I did what?  And you would know this because? I cashed  out? You have no idea what you are talking about. And I watched it spiral downward?  I was not part of the Company when it spiraled downward.</p>
<p>And clearly, you do not understand sarcasm&#8230; when I said I had his word&#8230; it was very tongue in cheek. John Textor&#8217;s &#8220;word&#8221;?  Really? You know the old joke of how do you tell when a salesman is lying? When his lips are moving.</p>
<p>As for trust&#8230; I&#8217;m from NYC, I don&#8217;t trust anyone until they prove to me that they are trustworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: ion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that&#039;s the focus  of the incresing securities class actions;

Did DD present a false picture on the run up to the IPO(s)?

As as standalone movie studio and lesser extent advertising unit, DD was pretty much finished anyway, prior to Textor. Without Textor, DD would have to have maybe tried to slog it out in the advertising vendor industry in a bigger fashion, setup shop in New York/London against the big established commercials vendors. Not easy either. The movie vfx operation was partly dangled as the IPO carrot, despite being unprofitable, that would provide vertical and horizontal integration into areas that could generate revenues, such as rights and distribution, hologram, movie production, marketing, so on. In the same way similar sized vendors rely on movie vfx as a store front but pull company revenues from other activities such as ILM/Lucas Film, Pixar, Dreamworks, Sony/Columbia Pictures. Maybe they just ran out of time. Maybe pre-IPO DD was like the chicken fillets at the grocery. The ones that are puffed up with injected air and water but maybe only contain 25% actual meat when it hits the pan. The court still has  alot of paper trails to follow that one.

It will be interesting to see how the new owners handle things. Galloping Horse maybe have time to develop DD into their other markets, already being established in the East in many areas of production. Particularly if China and India continue to assimilate western-globalized culture. But they are a very young company and they borrowed 20M from communist party funds to cover operational costs going forward. And the source of those funds are ordinary citizen wages - those same folk locked into factories 18 hours a day to make cell phones and sneakers to the West. There
has already been increasing revolts there in the past couple of years, so who knows if such funding may be so ubundant going forward? Depending on communist Police and military suppression would not be a good longterm business plan, so DD may need  to start generating profits sooner than later. 

That&#039;s the one problem with the fit as-is. Galloping Horse has all the attributes to achieve in the areas where IPO DD failed but so far, Chinese and Indian forays into
North American Markets seem to consist of targeting bulk DVD-duplication, digital film restoration and stereo conversion. High-volume low-margin business that generates
solid revenues. Quite a departure from DD as-is but would bring you into competition, on  a big scale, with the biggest players in the field like deluxe and technicolor. With
eyewatering capital cost outlays to boot. There are quite a few differences between then-and-now, looking at that old magazine  from Japan/Sony/Columbia. Back then,
sony was truely cash rich (didn&#039;t need to borrow from a dictatorship government), was one of the world&#039;s leading technology inovators, with ready made parallel markets, right
at the start of this whole technology wave. Very different situations. It will be fascinating to see what the new owners have planned, whether its US focused or eastern focused. Still, good luck to everyone. Interesting also to see how long the case will drag on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the focus  of the incresing securities class actions;</p>
<p>Did DD present a false picture on the run up to the IPO(s)?</p>
<p>As as standalone movie studio and lesser extent advertising unit, DD was pretty much finished anyway, prior to Textor. Without Textor, DD would have to have maybe tried to slog it out in the advertising vendor industry in a bigger fashion, setup shop in New York/London against the big established commercials vendors. Not easy either. The movie vfx operation was partly dangled as the IPO carrot, despite being unprofitable, that would provide vertical and horizontal integration into areas that could generate revenues, such as rights and distribution, hologram, movie production, marketing, so on. In the same way similar sized vendors rely on movie vfx as a store front but pull company revenues from other activities such as ILM/Lucas Film, Pixar, Dreamworks, Sony/Columbia Pictures. Maybe they just ran out of time. Maybe pre-IPO DD was like the chicken fillets at the grocery. The ones that are puffed up with injected air and water but maybe only contain 25% actual meat when it hits the pan. The court still has  alot of paper trails to follow that one.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the new owners handle things. Galloping Horse maybe have time to develop DD into their other markets, already being established in the East in many areas of production. Particularly if China and India continue to assimilate western-globalized culture. But they are a very young company and they borrowed 20M from communist party funds to cover operational costs going forward. And the source of those funds are ordinary citizen wages &#8211; those same folk locked into factories 18 hours a day to make cell phones and sneakers to the West. There<br />
has already been increasing revolts there in the past couple of years, so who knows if such funding may be so ubundant going forward? Depending on communist Police and military suppression would not be a good longterm business plan, so DD may need  to start generating profits sooner than later. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the one problem with the fit as-is. Galloping Horse has all the attributes to achieve in the areas where IPO DD failed but so far, Chinese and Indian forays into<br />
North American Markets seem to consist of targeting bulk DVD-duplication, digital film restoration and stereo conversion. High-volume low-margin business that generates<br />
solid revenues. Quite a departure from DD as-is but would bring you into competition, on  a big scale, with the biggest players in the field like deluxe and technicolor. With<br />
eyewatering capital cost outlays to boot. There are quite a few differences between then-and-now, looking at that old magazine  from Japan/Sony/Columbia. Back then,<br />
sony was truely cash rich (didn&#8217;t need to borrow from a dictatorship government), was one of the world&#8217;s leading technology inovators, with ready made parallel markets, right<br />
at the start of this whole technology wave. Very different situations. It will be fascinating to see what the new owners have planned, whether its US focused or eastern focused. Still, good luck to everyone. Interesting also to see how long the case will drag on.</p>
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		<title>By: DDv3.0</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DDv3.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work at DD and on Ironman 3. It did not get pulled, we are working hard on some cool shots]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at DD and on Ironman 3. It did not get pulled, we are working hard on some cool shots</p>
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		<title>By: vfxlies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vfxlies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You insert your foot in mouth on your own. You cashed in on DD, watched the company spiral downward, and yet you somehow think your opinion is valid in all of this.  Where is that $100,000 Textor promised you?  I thought you had &quot;his word&quot;?  Did you not trust him as well?  

When a man gives you his word, whether it&#039;s a $100,000 promise, or a forward looking statement that affects your position in the market, you tend to trust that person when they are a CEO of a big company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You insert your foot in mouth on your own. You cashed in on DD, watched the company spiral downward, and yet you somehow think your opinion is valid in all of this.  Where is that $100,000 Textor promised you?  I thought you had &#8220;his word&#8221;?  Did you not trust him as well?  </p>
<p>When a man gives you his word, whether it&#8217;s a $100,000 promise, or a forward looking statement that affects your position in the market, you tend to trust that person when they are a CEO of a big company.</p>
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		<title>By: jonavark</title>
		<link>http://vfxsoldier.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/digital-domain-purchased-by-galloping-horse-reliance/#comment-10870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonavark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Scott. It was probably truly stupid because , as far as I know DD NEVER made money. Is that true? Wasn&#039;t it always running at a loss? If so, then yes.. buying it and taking it public was indeed truly stupid. And I would have to say that anyone familiar with the VFX industry would have made a very bad investment. That includes Florida.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Scott. It was probably truly stupid because , as far as I know DD NEVER made money. Is that true? Wasn&#8217;t it always running at a loss? If so, then yes.. buying it and taking it public was indeed truly stupid. And I would have to say that anyone familiar with the VFX industry would have made a very bad investment. That includes Florida.</p>
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