VES 2.0 Needs To Hear Your Voice

Scott Squires has been doing an incredible job getting the word out about VES 2.0:

I’d like to once again ask all vfx artists and companies to submit their thoughts, ideas, solutions and concerns to the VES Leadership group. Email VES Leadership group You don’t have to be a member to submit. You can also post in the comments here or email me directly. **

If you’re in the vfx industry you do really owe it to yourself and your future to submit your thoughts. Now is the time, not 6 months from now.

Fellow artists, this is your change to submit your thoughts and proposals of what the VES has to do to get this industry into order. I’ll be posting my email to them in the coming days.

Soldier On.

3 Responses to VES 2.0 Needs To Hear Your Voice

  1. Scott Ross says:

    form an international trade union
    have all big facilities join
    set certain parameters for credits, short turn around, payment schedules, overtime, tests
    elect a world class executive that runs the TA
    set a fund for lobbying

    and get something done.

    VES 2.0 was announced May 2011.
    That was four months ago.

    VES 1.0 was founded in 1997.
    That was fourteen years ago.

  2. Vfxartist says:

    I agree with mr. Ross, but I raise too that medium and smaller facilities should also have access to the trade organization.

    Establish minimums so that the VALUE of our industry is maintained.

    Likewise for the artist, they need a union to also establish minimums to maintain the VALUE of what they do. Key is to establish adherence to local labor laws. I.e. If an artist is booked, one shouldn’t have to haggle that they work as an hourly, w2 employee with an industry standard deal memo citing start and end dates. This pressures the vendor to pressure their clients to commit to a deliver of assets at a CONTRACTUALY agreed time (see how that works?) . This way the artist isn’t in the profit loss sharing business with the vendor. 1099 should be abolished. It’s a profit robbing scam that has no place in the Vfx shop full of employees, be it temporary or staff.

    Point is to get terms like “I’ll know it when I see it” out of our lexicon and get back to billing for all of the added cost that seems to pile up in post. The ONLY way to do this is by contractually obligating the client. The ONLY way to enforce that is with a unified front. Otherwise I see what’s been going on for the last decade and a half: the vendor yields to impossible demands that rob the profitability of the biz. This has been passed down to the artist in the form of stagnant wages (I’m talking the majority of rank and file, not superstar Flame artist who work in another capacity that is part client relations, part artist), then no benefits, then underemployment. To finally this “day rate” horse shit which is a mirror of the “flat rate” that vendor bids become because overages aren’t properly billed.

    So the bid doesn’t reflect the HD codec shot by the client’s one-hit-wonder-Vimeo-discovered director that butchers the green screen that has flesh tones blown and now causes a black line from the over exposed red channel transitioning to the green of the green screen, then subsampled via the facility’s owners niece who handled the import who knows diddly about transcoding. This ends up quadrupling the labor involved in color grading and compositing. So the artist, who was never involved in the bid, decisions or execution of mosh pit of errors, is supposed to absorb this profit loss by only charging a day rate on work that was bid on reflecting 1/3 the actual labor cost on completing the job.

    Guys, we used to get rich on these fuck ups, not sent to the poor house. If a pipe busts in my house on Sunday at midnight, should my plumber absorb the loss of having to come out at my house at an emergency cost? No! He’s gonna make me pay triple while having to stare at his plumbers crack in the middle of the night. Time to wise up and get organized, which has been near non-existent in both the vendor and labor side.

    And a note on that: trade organizations and unions have a dance thats a necessity for business to succeed. I hear from some “entrepreneurs” that unions have “fucked” this country. No surprise that when talking to these guys they unanimously come off as pricks. Point is with a weak biz, unions fail. With a weak biz and no unions, the biz still fails. Unions are a legal cartel established from decades of industrialized ass raping of workers. You just have to look at history, and not selectively. That being said, should we model it after the failed UAW? That was a failed labor organization in a failing auto industry that produced an inferior product. But labor and business need different representation, which is why VES throws me into a loopy-loop going from ” we’re just an honorary society” to wanting to be a solution for both. Kudos to the selfless VES volunteers but in the end, labor and business, two separate representations: one is for sound & sustainable profitability of the biz, the other is for the health and welfare of the workers.

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